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Old 03-01-2021, 08:17 AM
Quarterbore Quarterbore is offline
 
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Default Wooden Enbloc for training!

I was following a link to 2/5rd enblocs and found this as a related item that I hadnít seen before.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007341123

The only review sounds like these are well used but does anybody have an opinion on using one of these?

I have a drill rifle with itís plugged barrel I use to introduce gun safety to Scouts and something like this might be a handy way to demonstrate how a Garand was loaded without using even dummy ammo.

I need to look and see if there was anything else I have put off ordering and add one just to try it. If I works I can carve my own if what arrives is chewed up.
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Old 03-01-2021, 10:20 AM
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I donít have my reference library with me but they are pictured in the 1950ís Fm. They fit inside the normal enbloc. I have one somewhere in my collection that I got in a box of enblocs I bought from an old collector. I tried it and it worked. Iím sure you could make one easily.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:01 AM
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Default Wooden Block

I was given one of these years ago...don't recall where it came from.

Mine fits tight in the clip and locks into the action just like a full clip. It allows you to cycle the action without it locking back. Great for loading/unloading and dry fire training.

To remove is the same as removing a partially loaded clip of ammo...hold the oprod to the rear and press the clip ejection lever...
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:15 AM
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Any photos?

It might be a good training tool when working with Veteran Organization Honor Firing Squads.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:34 AM
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I was totally unaware such a device existed and that this item from Midway , is an actual WWII training item. THe wood approach shows great logic when a nation is into a massive World War !

Months ago, I bought one of these Greek aluminum units that does the same thing. The video at the site shows operation. For my purposes, this Greek issue unit is superb. Here it is:

https://www.brpguns.com/m1-garand-tr...reek-military/

You either need it or want it or could care less . Its not something for everyone.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:55 AM
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I was totally unaware such a device existed and that this item from Midway , is an actual WWII training item. THe wood approach shows great logic when a nation is into a massive World War !

Months ago, I bought one of these Greek aluminum units that does the same thing. The video at the site shows operation. For my purposes, this Greek issue unit is superb. Here it is:

https://www.brpguns.com/m1-garand-tr...reek-military/

You either need it or want it or could care less . Its not something for everyone.
I knew I had seen somewhere there was a metal version. Too much other crap floating in the brain and couldn't recall who had used this.
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Old 03-01-2021, 12:23 PM
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I donít have my reference library with me but they are pictured in the 1950ís Fm. They fit inside the normal enbloc. I have one somewhere in my collection that I got in a box of enblocs I bought from an old collector. I tried it and it worked. Iím sure you could make one easily.
Thank you, that makes more sense!

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Any photos?

It might be a good training tool when working with Veteran Organization Honor Firing Squads.
I went ahead and ordered one. Iíll get good photos and make up a drawing with dimensions etc.

Thanks for the info on the Greek metal version too. For my purpose nothing to encourage stopping a dummy round into a plugged barreled action is likely smarter.
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Old 03-01-2021, 12:29 PM
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Any photos?

It might be a good training tool when working with Veteran Organization Honor Firing Squads.
If I can find it I have one that is just like brand new. I'll post pics later this evening. If you want to make one let me know and I'll be glad to send you some exact size tracings.
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Old 03-01-2021, 12:33 PM
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I just googled it, and a picture is shown in paragraph 111 first sustained fire exercise- cadence, FM 23-5 (1951). It is figure 83. So if you have the FM from that era you know where to look.
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:58 PM
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If I can find it I have one that is just like brand new. I'll post pics later this evening. If you want to make one let me know and I'll be glad to send you some exact size tracings.
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