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Old 03-26-2014, 12:40 PM
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:23 PM
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Niche market, only thing that could boost it up would be an outright ban on AR-15 ownership. Even then, the M14 would get caught up in it...

Keep them M1 Garand's oiled.
EXACTLY what ALREADY happened in New York, pop. 20 million. AR-15 and M-14/M-1A are both BANNED -- forever. They actually tried to neuter the Garand also by making it illegal to have ANY "ammunition feeding device" (note I did not say "magazine") loaded with more than 7 rounds... but that got struck down by the courts.

Garands are not much of a solution, because the USGI inventories are drying up fast through CMP and it is illegal to import them from foreign nations. I don't think Springfield Inc. is making new production ones any more, either.

So in the third-biggest state in the country you already have what is basically a total, Australian/Canadian style ban. Don't think they won't be trying this elsewhere, kids...
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Old 03-27-2014, 04:11 PM
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We know the build parts are drying up or already gone, that g.i. barrels are basically impossible to find, and there is currently no u.s. makers doing them in production, save for some bolts and scattered op rods
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:27 AM
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criterion makes chrome lined
Criterion barrels do not come close to being the same as g.i. barrels. Recent testing has proven this.

Thank you for directing me to this thread. I'm not exactly sure where this testing took place, but I'd like to see where he got that information. Our barrels will normally outperform GI surplus barrels, so that comes as a bit of a surprise to me. We're always open to improving our products though, so if he has any feedback we would be more than happy to hear it. I'll post a response as soon as I get a new account activated at the CMP Forums.

Josh Buege

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W172 N13050 Division Rd.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:26 PM
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Criterion barrels do not come close to being the same as g.i. barrels. Recent testing has proven this.



The same as g.i., hammer forged. Same for all the small parts as g.i. too.

I didn't want to ask Orest until I had something to prove it would be viable. Interest in such, by the people. 284 views and few replies answers that question though. I wanted the public opinion before approaching CMP so when they asked, all I had to do is tell them to read the thread. Maybe someone could find another entity to handle marketing of such parts since there seems to be no opinions from members here.

It's funny too, because for years I have been reading the myriad of complaints and opinions about the cheap, cast, foreign made parts breaking over and over.
Could you provide the source of the aforementioned testing? We normally receive positive reviews regarding our barrels, so any time there is information available that may help improve our products we're always interested to hear about it.

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Old 03-28-2014, 02:39 PM
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bought 2 for my a4geries.
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:35 PM
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I have been using Criterion barrels for years. As far as I know, they are right up there on the top of the list. Who said any different Rip? I would be interested in the testing you talked about too.

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Old 03-29-2014, 09:50 AM
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I disagree with the earlier statement that Criterion barrels do not "come close to being the same as USGI". Insofar as accuracy, I used a USGI profile 7790190 CL Criterion barrel on a Fulton receiver build, with the remaining parts USGI, and it easily shoots as well, or better, than my other M14 type rifles with SA and SAK USGI 7790190 rack grade barrels. From 147 gr. to 168 gr. handloads or a wide variety of milsurp, whatever, it is on par, or better, than the USGI barreled rifles.

Insofar as chrome plating technology I can't help but think the modern day manufactured Criterion was done so with evolved and better technology and quality controls as compared to USGI CL rack grade barrels 50+ years ago.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:21 AM
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better chroming technologies as now,better barrel nitriding also
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:20 AM
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:27 AM
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criterion makes chrome lined
Criterion barrels do not come close to being the same as g.i. barrels. Recent testing has proven this.

Thank you for directing me to this thread. I'm not exactly sure where this testing took place, but I'd like to see where he got that information. Our barrels will normally outperform GI surplus barrels, so that comes as a bit of a surprise to me. We're always open to improving our products though, so if he has any feedback we would be more than happy to hear it. I'll post a response as soon as I get a new account activated at the CMP Forums.

Josh Buege

Criterion Barrels
W172 N13050 Division Rd.
Germantown, WI 53076
ph: (262) 628-8749
fax: (262) 997-113
Here is a picture from my last trip about 3 weeks ago, of what Rip is talking about. I go up and help with M14 builds from time to time. I've seen quite a few Criterion Barrels go though his shop and recently many of them were similar to this one. (see photo) I've never seen a GI barrel off indexed. The feed ramp is about 4 degrees out, when the front sight was properly indexed. The cartridge clearance relief cuts are clearly uneven. Consequently this barrel was chewing up brass.

To be honest I think the rush to get things out the door since Connecticut have left some QC issues with many barrels markers... We've had some "fun" with Kreiger barrel lately too.... short chambering, feed ramps, crowning issues, sharp edges in the entrance of the chamber. Requiring a bit of work to get brass into the chamber without looking like it went though a grinder.

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Old 03-29-2014, 12:16 PM
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Geeck, in the above picture, who is the manufacturer of that receiver? Was it sent to the end user with that level of handwork/grinding in the lug/roller areas?
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