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Old 12-11-2016, 01:45 PM
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It has a 0 mw and I'm pretty sure from the looks of things there has not been a round chambered and shot in it from close examination I have seen a many rifle barrels ,I'd bet my last dollar it's a new barrel ,But I have lost a many last dollars also from people who know more than I do for sure,But I am pretty knowledgeable when it comes to firearms,Far from a know it all though.The shoulder area as in where you would clamp it to put on and remove the barrel,Is that where your looking to see if its been on and of a rifle??,,I'm loading pics now. Well if its a Take off its one heck of a nice one that's for sure, Its a 64 dated barrel from what i can tell,Has the Winchester name written out has the Defense dept stamp etc.Chamber is white not parked like a refinished barrel would usually be ,Im still learning a lot about M-14,s having spent most of my time in Garands,Carbines and some 03,s and other rifles,So M-14,s I am learning about and any help would be greatly appriceated from you Ren and anyone else. Thank You ,Smal
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:45 PM
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I sure hope my winnie barrel is as nice as yours!

I have one of them Jame River welded Winchester heel receivers and have been looking for a winnie barrel



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Renisin ,It's brand spanking new old stock for sure,its original finish there are no scratches marks etc in the finish on the barrel receiver threads also where the pins and barrel bands go on not a scratch also where the Gas cylinder and the Flash hider are put on no marks at all or scratches.

The inside of that barrel is as clean of a barrel i ever saw,I got extremely lucky then as after a night of part cleaning and scrubbing most of my other parts cleaned up too other than that darn Gas cylinder,could it be stainless steel and that would be the reason its as shiny as a new dime.Also anyone know what the spec measurements are for a serviceable Op Rod handle tab .

I was not sure how rare a Winchester barrel unused was to tell ya the truth but figured Winchester was most likely a good one to go ahead and build since New American Winchesters are a thing of the past .I have some pics ill post I just need to oil these parts up and take a few more then ill post some up,But a good cleaning on these parts has made them much better.Winchesters finish alwaays was rough anyways so someone getting one of the other makers may get a batch of pretty parts but id bet they will be filthy like mine were .,And I was thinking oh boy I got Scr#@$%, But after working my butt off all night cleaning them up with some very good polishing cloths and polishing some parts by hand to get the crap stains out of the metal,There pretty good except for that darn Gas cylinder that looks like so bright and shiny,The finish on my parts is more of a light grey ,My other M-14s a H&R with an original finish and its more of a dark black look to the metal,That's another reason I thought my parts were crap,I was looking for that dark finish on the metal. Got some pics coming later today.

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Old 12-11-2016, 02:07 PM
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It has a 0 mw and I'm pretty sure from the looks of things there has not been a round chambered and shot in it from close examination I have seen a many rifle barrels ,I'd bet my last dollar it's a new barrel ,But I have lost a many last dollars also from people who know more than I do for sure,But I am pretty knowledgeable when it comes to firearms,Far from a know it all though.The shoulder area as in where you would clamp it to put on and remove the barrel,Is that where your looking to see if its been on and of a rifle??,,I'm loading pics now. Well if its a Take off its one heck of a nice one that's for sure, Its a 64 dated barrel from what i can tell,Has the Winchester name written out has the Defense dept stamp etc.Chamber is white not parked like a refinished barrel would usually be ,Im still learning a lot about M-14,s having spent most of my time in Garands,Carbines and some 03,s and other rifles,So M-14,s I am learning about and any help would be greatly appriceated from you Ren and anyone else. Thank You ,Smal
I am always glad to help, and I will be the first to point out no one knows it all. I spend a large amount my my time looking for M14 parts and reading all I can on it's history, been doing this for going on four years now.

From what I have seen there are very few new from tube barrels out there from the big four(Winchester,TRW, SA. and H&R). I have bought two new SA. barrels, one new SAK and one new CA. barrel, thats it. I have been lucky enough to have purchased two excellent Winny barrels, two excellent TRW barrels with one being a NM barrel(quite rare!). I have also gotten a very nice H&R barrel.

On the down side I purchased a worthless SAK NM barrel and a not so nice Winny barrel, yes live and learn.

The TRW standard USGI barrel was presented as new, many on the M14 forum thought it was, but there were still others who have been around far longer than I who thought it was a reparked, reworked barrel.

Short story, when I received the TRW barrel I cleaned it with acetone which removed bluing marker, I took detailed pictures and blew them up, scoped the barrel. It turned out to be a reworked barrel. Jon Wolfe has the barrel and he called me to tell me it was a good barrel just not new. I told him I was aware and to go ahead and screw it on. Cause theres no way I was going to find a nicer one.

So you see the chances of you having a new Winchester USGI M14 barrel are very slim indeed, you could have a really nice take off and there is nothing wrong with that, its like me looking for a new TRW barrel...easier to find a unicorn!!

REN

ps. it should have a P near the DOD stamp and next to the stamped "M" if the P has a punch mark it is a used barrel for sure. But it doesn't mean its new if it doesn't.

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Old 12-12-2016, 10:53 PM
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My parts arrived today. Not a lot of finish left on any of them. HR take off barrel with a nice looking chromed bore. I don't have any gages to check the TW and MW, MW maybe 1-1.5 (bullet guess). Basically they look like good serviceable parts, probably a little pricey for what I received. The shipping was fairly fast.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:11 AM
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Sorry it took a extra day or so,Got Hung up ,Here are some of the Barrel pics of that Winchester Barrel.I had not cleaned this barrel yet inside .Looks even better now after cleaning


























Well What do ya think a really good Winchester barrel or a new one !

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Old 12-13-2016, 06:13 AM
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Well What do ya think New or just a very good Winchester Barrel?
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:14 AM
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I wish all the other parts they sent looked this good







After I scrubbed the parts to get the grime off ,put a good soaking in some CLP a few hours they were not bad,This is what they looked like when I recieved the trigger group with nothing done

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Old 12-13-2016, 03:01 PM
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Smal your barrel is not new but a take off barrel, still if it times well and the chrome is in tact you should have a decent shooter.

Ren
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:01 PM
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Well Thank you for that info Renisin ,That works for me,Chrome is intact and beautiful,Hopefully I will have a receiver soon to see if it does work for me.Thank you for your help. Can't win them all,It would have been nice if it was a New one.I saw it was punch marked when you told me to look,So I knew then.Darn it.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:28 PM
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I built a wonderful SEI/Winchester M14 using a take off barrel and it is one fine rifle.

Good luck with your build.

Ren
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