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Old 08-02-2020, 10:29 AM
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What is the modern equivalent of the M1956 M14 mag pouches. Better yet, what do current soldiers and Marines use with their M14 rifles?
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Old 08-02-2020, 01:32 PM
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I suspect that at least some use the DMR Mag Pouch NSN: 8415-01-529-1600
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Old 08-02-2020, 01:47 PM
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The Army adopted HSGI Taco pouches to go with the 7.62 mags that the M110A1 C-SASS uses. Tacos can take basically any size rifle mag.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...arksman-rifle/

The USMC previously adopted the Taco as well.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-fit-pmag.html

Esstac KYWI pouches are a good choice too, but they're not of a universal size. You can get them in 7.62 specific size. I've seen a few pictures of US special forces using KYWIs in the 5.56 size, but I haven't seen any yet of them using them for 7.62 mags.

G-Code Scorpions are of a similar bungee design to the Taco. Their mounting system attaches by screws rather than just having PALS webbing on the back with a MALICE clip like the Taco. I haven't seen any pictures of US forces using them, but maybe some do choose to purchase them.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:10 AM
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I have not used a “Taco” style pouch yet. Maybe someday I will get around to it. I use ATS pouches for my M14 and 5.56 mags. Have worked well for me.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:42 AM
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FYI:
The M14 was only used (again) in the mid 2000's for a couple of years, before being withdrawn from service again.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:20 AM
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FYI:
The M14 was only used (again) in the mid 2000's for a couple of years, before being withdrawn from service again.
Yep and the DMR mag pouch I mentioned was also used in that timeframe.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:06 AM
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What about BAR pouches?
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Old 08-05-2020, 06:27 AM
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The BAR ammunition Belts and bandoleers work as well as the "M1956 Pouch Ammunition Universal". But since they are all designed for BAR mags, the M14 mags will be loose in them. The USMC single M14 mag pouch and the Vietnam era M14 double mag pouches (not many actually issued, if any) are a tight fit. I did learn that the Hardback M1956 Ammunition pouches are supposed to hold three M14 mags instead of only two.

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Old 08-11-2020, 06:11 AM
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Leg pockets on jungle utilities worked very well in 1967. Kept the mags clean. The M1956 were too open so mud, sand and whatever else was in the neighborhood managed to filter in and gum things up. Most ammo was loaded from bandoleers so you knew it was clean.
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:27 AM
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FYI: The M14 was only used (again) in the mid 2000's for a couple of years, before being withdrawn from service again.
Not exactly per the historical record. While it is true that a large number of M14s were pulled from storage in the early-to-mid 200Xs for ad hoc DMR/SDM rifles, the fact is the Enhanced Battle Rifle (EBR) version of the M14 rifles with SAGE chassis were still widely in service with the US Army in the mid-201Xs, but were subsequently withdrawn in 2018-19ish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_14_...d_Battle_Rifle

2009-2017/18: Approx 6200 M14 EBR-RI rifles were issued as the US Army's standard Squad Designated Marksman rifles (SDM). Here's a quick history of those 6k rifles:
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editoria...-ebr-ri/247604

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What is the modern equivalent of the M1956 M14 mag pouches. Better yet, what do current soldiers and Marines use with their M14 rifles?
As for the question re magazine pouches: Each M14 EBR-RI was issued with 6 CMI magazines, and if I can find the reference, I think 3 Eagle Industries double M14 magazine pouches. That might have changed over time as Eagle Industries was subsequently sold to I think a foreign entity and the M14 magazines were discontinued. Here's what I think was originally issued with the early M14-EBR-RIs: https://www.opticsplanet.com/eagle-i...uch-molle.html


Here's some pics for anyone interested:



Relatively recent picture from 201X with several M14 EBR-RI, but not sure of exact date (note mag pouches, which look similar to the Eagle Industries design).
I suspect all these soldiers were qualified as Squad Desginated Marksman, and all were issued the same rifle and gear:


An EBR-RI in Afghanistan, Sept 2009. I noted the 3 mag pouches are OD green which is a little unusual:


This pic is likely 2009 or 2010 in Afghanistan (it is shown in the 2011 Leupold Tactical catalog).
The magazine pouches do not have flaps, so not sure what is being used here:


The USMC used the M14 DMR from 2000 to about 2009/2010 afterwhich they used the SAGE-chassis M39 (M14s) for a short period from 2008-2012, afterwhich they were replaced with the M110. I'm not sure what the USMC used for M14 magazine pouches.

The US Navy used the Mk 14 Mod 0/1 from 2004 until the late 200Xs. The final version, the Mk 14 Mod 2 were made in 2011 (only 250 made) and I think is still used by the Navy Expeditionary Combat Command (NECC). Not sure if the US Air Force (M14 EMR SEI) and US Coast Guard (M 14 T) are still using their M14s in SAGE chassis developed in the mid-200Xs.

So, while it is true that the M14s have largely been withdrawn from US military service as of 2020, it is important to note the SAGE chassis for the M14 extended its service life for about 15 years, and over 10k M14s in various configurations with the SAGE chassis were used by all branches of the US military from ~ 2004 to ~ 2018-19ish.

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