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Old 07-29-2021, 09:36 AM
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I m starting to think that the P with serifs in a square box is a late WW2 rebuild stamp. This thought is based on finding this stamp on some Wisconsin Barn wood that surfaced years ago. None of this wood (that i found) had cartouches later than SA GAW (unless Rick B. found some ?) and SA GAW was also used as a rebuild stamp (WRA stocks as example)

Finding a serif P in a box among these stocks would indicate to me that this is a WW2 stamp and also disclaim the statement that all P in a box is post WW2 rebuild
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:53 AM
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Any pics? Haven't seen a P with seriffs in a box cartouche. I own a GAW with a non seriffed P in a circle that is believed to be a rebuild stock.
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Were rifles returned to a state side rebuild facility during WWII? If so you would think SA if anyplace....
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:44 AM
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Were rifles returned to a state side rebuild facility during WWII? If so you would think SA if anyplace....
Hard to say, but the state side training rifles that got used and abused by recruits probably were.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:48 AM
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It is believed that the Wisconsin Barn Wood came from Rock Island Arsenal,
kept in mind there wasn't any SA SHM or post war SA SPG stocks. Nothing was cartouched beyond SA GAW which was also used as a rebuild stamp. Even some of the SA SPG and Winchester had no trap buttplates - that is how I was able to identify the SA and WRA no trap buttplates by the checking pattern.

I still have a no trap WRA WB stock with the normal circle serif P proof and a second non serif P proof in a circle about an inch back from the first proof.

Alot or most of this wood came from overseas due to the large amount of names carved into the wood plus other carvings, checkering, inletting for photo etc this kind of wood working would never happen stateside

I did find variations of the RA-P on the pistol grips, early large letters then other variations - believe the early RA-P is early WW2
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I have a Winchester stock that was re-worked and stamped with a SA NFR stamp with cannons. I bought it from Dupage so I'm reasonably sure it is legit. Stocks of that type not rare but they are uncommon however NFR stamped WRA stocks are even less common than GAW stamped WRA stocks are. NFR stamped WRA stocks would tend to indicate that either both NFR and GAW stamps were also used as rebuild stamps or that both the GAW and NFR stamped WRA stocks were simply re-worked by SA then installed on new production rifles. Looking forward to Rick B's input.

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Old 07-31-2021, 09:38 AM
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Det. Jason, did you like the photos of the WW2 rebuild ?
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Det. Jason, did you like the photos of the WW2 rebuild ?
Yes Sir, that is truly a first for me. Very cool. The other stamps are interesting as well.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:35 PM
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Here are some pics via 7.62's stock.




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Thanks Jason for posting these photos. This is a 1939 SA SPG stock that was converted to trap door during WW2. The original drawing number and B-104 rack number are still there. During the conversion the stock was changed to have two equal sized holes in the trap area. The serif P in a box is not common to find. This stock came from the Wisconsin Barn Wood. Actually this stock "could" be converted back to a no trap SA SPG without much effort - but I would rather keep it as a direct conversion stock and perfect to match with a 1939 gas trap receiver and gas port barrel
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